As long as you have an awareness of how the indoctrination is conducted and how it works you'll be able to resist and maintain. You may have to engage some "role playing" in order to get along as you very carefully continue your efforts in this forum but it looks like you're headed in the right direction. You've been given some very good advice by others here. Best wishes to you and always know that the "Helper" will aid you to remain free. There is much peace in knowing TTATT even while in their midst.
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This might be my last post
by Akid48 inso my aunt hates pcs but works in a office job and uses a pc to do work she has worked there for 23 years she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.. so if it is the last time i post hear i thank you all for you have told me i wish the all of you the best life you can have.i will try to post hear this will start when im in school..
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The WatchTower conductor lied on stage
by Isambard Crater inon sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.
when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?
i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.
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The parables told by the Son of Man had spiritual meanings rather than literal meanings. He spoke in parables that were difficult to comprehend for a reason. It was/is much more about modifying our biases, our lusts, our desires, our obsessions; while developing compassion and love for our fellow man.
To become givers rather than takers.
The parables still are difficult for the many to comprehend.
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Hi from England
by victimofdeceit inrecently quit being a jw because i realised that beyond armageddon i was going to be ruled by people who cover up child abuse, not telling the congregations by their letter where the money they donated in the box is going towards paying compensation for legal battles which they caused, and also i was bullied by elders and discriminated against for being homosexual, even though i am not practicing it.
it wasn't until i threatened legal action for a breach of confidence that the elders were deleted.
so through the media and my own personal experience, i realised that they were no different to corrupt businesses in the world.
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Aye, it is such a wonderful thing to see another "apostate" find their way to freedom from the tentacles of the WTBorg Inc.!!
Hallelujah!! In the most positive sort of way!
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Do you feel comfortable being an apostate?
by Chook ini always found it uncomfortable to informal witness to people but trying to convince a jw to jump ship brings much more pleasure..
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Freedom is Lovely! Very, very Lovely!
In due time all of those dedicated Jdubs who are mind-slaves to WTBorg Inc. will have their eyes opened in order to see the Real Truth. Of that I am certain.
There will be much gnashing of teeth.
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What would happen if everyone who ever lived came back? - Video on Youtube
by ILoveTTATT2 invery interesting video showing what would happen if everyone who ever died came back...tldr: 90% would die (again) within two months because of famine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-s34gz3xwgtherefore: "paradise" is just impossible..
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Very intriguing question and interesting video. The Word does tell us that such an eventuality is indeed possible; but, first, there must be some rather dramatic changes to the state of Planet Earth in order to support the numbers. That is foretold as well. It appears, according to The Word, that we may all be very pleasantly surprised when the time comes!
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JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues
by Chook init's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.
the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.
gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.
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Hmmmmmm. I'm wondering though whether the lack of love and extreme judgmentalism are in fact really matters of JWBorg Inc. "doctrine." The membership is taught that non-Jws are "bad association" and are therefore to be semi-shunned. They are additionally taught that those deemed to be "spiritually weak" are "bad association" and are to be semi-shunned." They are taught that it is Biblical to "report" any who conduct themselves in "doubting" ways or who dare examine "apostate" materials. Then of course the "Full-Shun" for the dis-fellowshipped as they have been judged to be mentally diseased or "spiritually dead." This climate of fear and distrust nurtures a weird mindset of both (a) being better than the Worldly and (b) undeserving of the Love of Our Father and His Son. A twisted "doctrine" to be sure which is not shared by most of the rest of Christendom.
They are not taught to love any but themselves, but with a "fake love" that is quite militant compared to the Biblical Agape Love. Their doctrine of "love" is really an extension of the climate of fear/control.
Is it any wonder that their heads become so Effed Up? The stress of conforming to WT Mandated Behaviors drives out any intuitive sense of love and compassion and effectively replaces it with hatred. Which, by the way, looks to be more and more the "secret objective" of WTBorg Inc.; to mind-screw the membership into a slave life of fearful hatred. They've been taught to parrot how much they "love Jehovah" while at the same time demonstrating the Fruitage of The Adversary.
The Doctrine of Zombification personified. Split-Personality anyone?
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New Cringe Worthy Music Video From July Broadcast
by JW_Rogue inthe song is supposedly about marveling at god's creation but instead includes over the top adoration of the elders, conventions, and family worship.
lol getting a brother who sounds like a wannabe josh groban only adds to the cheesiness.
https://youtu.be/tzxf25gvs_m.
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As propaganda goes I've seen much worse.
The tight pants and ample bosom are actually quite attractive. All "good" propaganda will contain some sex appeal content. For those "interested ones" who are unaware it will no doubt be quite persuasive.
Satan and his "organization" are very clever. Recruitment high tech while seeming to be the Angel of Light.
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Sexist Watchtower quote makes me so angry
by Phoebe injohn cedars latest youtube video refers to last weekend's wt study article which some have referred to on another thread but i am truly outraged at the continuing misogynist attitude toward women.
not only did that study article say if women have a family to care for it will stop them gossiping or meddling into other people's affairs, lloyd shares on his video a talk by sam herd from when he was a c.o in 1971.
(i hope he has since changed his opinion!
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Another "point" which should be obvious in this discussion is that the males in the WTBorg Inc. "religion" are perhaps the true sources of gossip material. Ever been with a group of elders to overhear their "private" discussions? Absolutely shocking!
Of course, blame the ladies. Sounds like a clear case of CYA.
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How appealing is this?
by Half banana inwould you join a religion which says everyone who is not a member will be killed by god?.
would you join a religion which you know that statistically if you stay in it long enough, there is a high chance that it will split your family apart?.
would you join a religion which demands that you preach to your neighbours that they are soon going to die if they don’t believe your message?.
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Quote from jp1692:
Would I? In fact I did, but it was only after joining that I began to discover the real truth about the cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Well said! Which means that the "contract" is null and void. Unless there is full disclosure ab initio the transaction is fraudulent. We have all been deceived in the classical fashion.
While surely painful, the experience is none-the-less very beneficial. The "Waking Up" part, that is.
We now all possess a great Truth that will be of considerable value as we continue on along the narrow path.
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What religions/organizations aren't a cult?
by Jules Saturn inso we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.
the list goes on and on.
but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?
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In the beginning many organizations were created for good purposes to perform good works and to enable freedom. In time those organizations have been infiltrated by deceivers whose intent has been to purposely corrupt them and transform them into cults. The U.S. government, and many others throughout the World, have programs in place to accomplish infiltration and transformation. Military Intelligence Agencies employ such tactics for training purposes to enhance the skills of agent provocateurs during PsyOp exercises. In this day and age nothing is as it seems...